1万块，能不能买一辆好摩托车？
<section style="margin: 0px 16px;padding: 0px;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family: mp-quote, -apple-system-font, system-ui, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;font-size: 17px;font-style: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: 400;orphans: 2;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: 2;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-thickness: initial;text-decoration-style: initial;text-decoration-color: initial;max-width: 100%;min-height: 1em;letter-spacing: 0.544px;text-align: center;box-sizing: border-box !important;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><br/></section><p></p><p style="margin: 0px 16px;padding: 0px;clear: both;min-height: 1em;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family: mp-quote, -apple-system-font, system-ui, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;font-size: 17px;font-style: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: 400;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: 2;text-align: justify;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: 2;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-thickness: initial;text-decoration-style: initial;text-decoration-color: initial;line-height: 1.75em;"><span style="margin: 0px;padding: 0px;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: PingFangSC-light;font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1px;text-align: start;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">你对一辆好的摩托车的定义是什么？如果就是有两个轮子，骑起来皮实耐用，满分100分，70分就够的话，1万块钱也许能弄出来这么一个机器来，国内目前的摩托车配套产业完全可以支撑你这么做，甚至这个在<strong>行业内的人看来这个门槛也就是钱多钱少的门槛</strong></span></p><p style="margin: 0px 16px;padding: 0px;clear: both;min-height: 1em;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family: mp-quote, -apple-system-font, system-ui, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;font-size: 17px;font-style: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: 400;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: 2;text-align: justify;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: 2;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-thickness: initial;text-decoration-style: initial;text-decoration-color: initial;line-height: 1.75em;"><span style="margin: 0px;padding: 0px;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: PingFangSC-light;font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1px;text-align: start;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><strong><br/></strong></span></p><p></p><section style="text-align: center;margin-left: 16px;margin-right: 16px;"></section><p></p><p style="margin: 0px 16px;padding: 0px;clear: both;min-height: 1em;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family: mp-quote, -apple-system-font, system-ui, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;font-size: 17px;font-style: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: 400;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: 2;text-align: justify;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: 2;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-thickness: initial;text-decoration-style: initial;text-decoration-color: initial;line-height: 1.75em;"><span style="margin: 0px;padding: 0px;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: PingFangSC-light;font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1px;text-align: start;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">但是同样的车，要做到80分以上那成本就会陡然上升，这里不仅仅包含做工的细节问题，还有各方面的人员、设计、软件、车辆调校等等，<strong>需要持续培养积累研发的巨大成本，这些是你通过一个冷冰冰的车看不到的成本，</strong>所以我们往往看到车按照各部件成本核算的方式是不科学的<span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span 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Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;font-size: 17px;font-style: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: 2;text-align: justify;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: 2;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-thickness: initial;line-height: 1.75em;"><span style="margin: 0px;padding: 0px;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: PingFangSC-light;font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1px;text-align: start;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">大品牌做出好车很正常，人家有多年的技术纵深积累都有，有些研发和技术成本都摊平了，而且产品也具有号召力，<span style="font-weight: bold;">但是毕竟是做生意，有壁垒和定价权后，利益最大化才是核心需求</span>，如果市场上没有竞品，而且自身又有足够优势，那么价格自己说了算，需求太旺盛了，涨价来平衡产能都有可能<span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 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rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family: mp-quote, -apple-system-font, system-ui, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;font-size: 17px;font-style: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: 400;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: 2;text-align: justify;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: 2;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-thickness: initial;text-decoration-style: initial;text-decoration-color: initial;line-height: 1.75em;"><span style="margin: 0px;padding: 0px;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: PingFangSC-light;font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1px;text-align: start;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></span></p><p style="text-align: start;margin: 0px 16px;padding: 0px;clear: both;min-height: 1em;font-style: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: 400;orphans: 2;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: 2;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-thickness: initial;line-height: 1.75em;"><span style="color:#000000;font-family:PingFangSC-light;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1px;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">但是小品牌做出好车来，研发试错成本高，再加上没有渠道、配套方面的强势定价权，整个车的成本自然要高一些，另外如果没有品牌的号召力，销售也得靠传统渠道，那就得给渠道留足利润，而摩托车又牵扯到上牌、售后的问题，所以即使他们想做出一款卖10000块的好车来，也因为吃力不讨好，风险太高从而望而却步<span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span></span></span></p><p style="text-align: start;margin: 0px 16px;padding: 0px;clear: both;min-height: 1em;font-style: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: 400;orphans: 2;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: 2;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-thickness: initial;line-height: 1.75em;"><span style="color:#000000;font-family:PingFangSC-light;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1px;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br/></span></span></p><p></p><section style="text-align: center;margin-left: 16px;margin-right: 16px;"></section><p></p><p style="text-align: start;margin: 0px 16px;padding: 0px;clear: both;min-height: 1em;font-style: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: 400;orphans: 2;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: 2;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-thickness: initial;line-height: 1.75em;"><span style="color:#000000;font-family:PingFangSC-light;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1px;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">以上是我们从车辆企业的角度来考虑的问题，其实作为消费者来说，价格其实也并不是越低越好，更多的是需要有一个需求和价格之间的平衡，10000块在今天来说并不是一个大数目，而新手由于对车子的认知较浅，也许他们并不需要一辆85分以上的车，而只是一辆好看，有面子的车，投其所好就行了，毕竟新手的换手率也是贼高<span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 0px;"></span><span style="display: none;line-height: 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both;min-height: 1em;font-style: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: 400;orphans: 2;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: 2;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-thickness: initial;line-height: 1.75em;"><span style="color:#000000;font-family:PingFangSC-light;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1px;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br/></span></span></p><p style="text-align: start;margin: 0px 16px;padding: 0px;clear: both;min-height: 1em;font-style: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: 400;orphans: 2;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: 2;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-thickness: initial;line-height: 1.75em;"><span style="color:#000000;font-family:PingFangSC-light;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1px;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">所以，1万块能造出来好车，但是对于市场来说也许就是个吃力不讨好的事情，也就没有人在这方面下功夫了</span></span></p><p style="margin: 0px 16px 0em;padding: 0px;min-height: 1em;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family: mp-quote, -apple-system-font, system-ui, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif;font-size: 17px;font-style: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: 400;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: 2;text-align: justify;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: 2;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-thickness: initial;line-height: 1.75em;"><br/></p><p style="display: none;"><mp-style-type data-value="3"></mp-style-type></p><p><br/></p><link rel="stylesheet" href="//bbs.527moto.com/source/plugin/wcn_editor/public/wcn_editor_fit.css?v134_VQ1" id="wcn_editor_css"/> 可以啊，二手的nk650 猛龙可以过江，水车不能过户。只要胆子大，零几年的R1，广东那边1w块随便整
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